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Subject: trying this on sunday
Author: ghostlygreen
Aug 25th, 2012
11:34 pm
06B. American Pale Ales, American Amber Ale All-grain
Color

Stats
OG 1.067
FG 1.017
IBU 80
ABV 6.5 %
SRM 21

Specifics
Boil Volume 7 gallons
Batch Size 5.25 gallons
Yeast 75% AA

Style Comparison
Low High
OG 1.045 1.067 1.056
FG 1.010 1.017 1.015
IBU 20 80 40
SRM 11 21 18
ABV 4.5 6.5 5.7



Fermentables % Weight Weight (lbs) Grain Gravity Points Color
6.1 % 0.75 American Crystal 40L 3.9 5.7
4.1 % 0.50 American Chocolate 2.2 33.3
2.0 % 0.25 American Crystal 60L 1.3 2.9
2.0 % 0.25 Victory Malt 1.1 0.3
81.6 % 10.00 American Two-row Pale 56.4 3.4
4.1 % 0.50 CaraPils 2.5 0.2
12.25 67.4

Hops % Wt Weight (oz) Hop Form AA% AAU Boil Time Utilization IBU
10.0 % 0.50 Amarillo Pellet 7.0 3.5 FWH 0.153 7.7
10.0 % 0.50 Magnum Pellet 14.5 7.3 60 0.253 26.2
20.0 % 1.00 Cascade Pellet 6.6 6.6 FWH 0.153 14.4
10.0 % 0.50 Amarillo Pellet 7.0 3.5 30 0.195 9.7
20.0 % 1.00 Cascade Pellet 6.6 6.6 10 0.092 8.6
20.0 % 1.00 East Kent Goldings Pellet 3.9 3.9 5 0.050 2.8
10.0 % 0.50 Cascade Whole/Plug 6.6 3.3 60 0.230 10.8
5.00 80.3

so who got there 2 cents on how this will come out. give me some pointers.
Subject: Re: trying this on sunday
Author: troybinso
Aug 25th, 2012
11:43 pm
Malt bill sounds great.

Hop bill is a little confusing to figure out, but for my taste it seems like you have a lot of bittering hops and not that much at the finish. Also, you are using some pretty aromatic varieties to get some of your bittering. I think finishing with a blend of amarillo, cascade and EKG sounds wonderful, but I wouldn't bother put them anywhere before 20 minutes left in the boil.

What yeast?
Subject: Re: trying this on sunday
Author: ghostlygreen
Aug 26th, 2012
2:37 am
how about this for a hop bill

% Wt Weight (oz) Hop Form AA% Boil Time Utilization IBU
16.7 % 0.50 Magnum Pellet 14.5 7.3 60 0.257 26.5
16.7 % 0.50 Amarillo Pellet 7.0 3.5 30 0.197 9.8
33.3 % 1.00 Cascade Pellet 6.6 6.6 10 0.093 8.8
33.3 % 1.00 EKG Pellet 3.9 3.9 5 0.051 2.8
3.00 48.0
Subject: Re: trying this on sunday
Author: jdmaxey
Aug 26th, 2012
12:55 pm
Ghostly, have you brewed this beer before? I ask because I'm wondering if you'll get any flavor out of the chocolate malt or if it's all for color.

I would have to agree with the others re the hops. The IBU seems a bit high for an APA and your beer wouldn't have enough flavor/aroma for my taste. Your suggestion sounds good but I might even do a little dry hopping.

It's Sunday now though so happy brewing. I'm sure you'll enjoy it no matter which way you go on the recipe. Now I need to finish my coffee and start heating up my mash water!
Subject: Re: trying this on sunday
Author: jtrainer
Aug 26th, 2012
5:53 pm
egads I don't like these promash outputs...

I liked the first hop bill better, the only changes I would do would be to reduce the 60 min Magnum and swap that EKG for more Amarillo or Cascade. Just move the
Subject: Re: trying this on sunday
Author: ghostlygreen
Aug 26th, 2012
6:18 pm
WHAT ABOUT DRY HOPPEN THE MAGNUM .5 OZ
Subject: Re: trying this on sunday
Author: ghostlygreen
Aug 26th, 2012
6:51 pm
THIS IS MY FINAL HOP BILL

20.0 % 0.50 Cascade 6.2 3.1 45 0.234 10.3
20.0 % 0.50 Amarillo 9.2 4.6 60 0.255 16.7
20.0 % 0.50 Cascade 6.2 3.1 30 0.196 8.7
20.0 % 0.50 Cascade 6.2 3.1 5 0.051 2.2
20.0 % 0.50 Amarillo 9.2 4.6 5 0.051 3.3
2.50 41.3
HOPE IT WORKS
Subject: Re: trying this on sunday
Author: jtrainer
Aug 26th, 2012
7:12 pm
OH my Goodness where's the rest of my post it was long lengthy and full of calculations...

You should be fine....

Personally I've been moving away from the 60 min additions....in favor of more FWH and hop bursting.


In a nut shell I was saying drop the magnum.... you have plenty of bitterness in there. Replace the EKG with more amarillo. The FWH additions were good to go too.


Subject: Re: trying this on sunday
Author: BrewerBob
Aug 29th, 2012
2:23 pm
half lb of chocolate seems a bit much. Usually for color contributions I use ~ 2-3 ounces and bump the medium crystal up a bit.

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