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Subject: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: brewboy_BB
Jun 4th, 2012
12:42 pm
All this talk about mash braids and their different lengths, has inspired me to replace mine. It was still doing a good job, but looking kind of ragged after being smashed with my mash paddle a few times. This got me to looking around at Lowe's and I've decided to try something different.

First off, this has not been tested, but I have a good feeling about it. This is 11" of braid that is about 1 1/8" in diameter, hence the name John Holmes. Internally, is a piece of thin wall stainless tubing that was cut from a Sanke spear to keep it from collapsing. Did you save yours?

My camera wasn't available at the time I assembled it, but I perforated the SS tubing with 3/8" holes all the way around it. Deburring them was the hardest part of this job. Anyway, here are some pictures of the finished part. I'll let you know how it works after my next brew, which I think will be heavy wheat to give it a real test.

http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee330/brushycreek/P1040518.jpg

http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee330/brushycreek/P1040517.jpg

Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: EricHa
Jun 4th, 2012
4:20 pm
something about this just screams 'racist'

where in this thing is the sanky spear?
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: Jeff_in_PDX
Jun 4th, 2012
4:39 pm
I tried 'stiffening' my braid with a piece of 1/2" OD teflon (PTFE) tubing with 3/8" holes drilled all over it, and had my worst stuck sparge ever. I think the tubing prevented the braid from opening or something. As soon as I removed the tubing, the sparge flowed as before. I hope you don't have the same issue!
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: brewboy_BB
Jun 4th, 2012
4:48 pm
Jeff, I'm concerned about that as well. I cut the SS tube at a length that fit the braid in a way that the mesh was opened up. Stretching or pulling on it doesn't seen to effect it much. WOW I actually typed that with a straight face.

If this doesn't work, then I'll make a copper wire sprial with soldered supports to keep it from being crushed.


Eric, it's the long tube/spear that dips into the keg. I saved all three of mine thinking that it would be needed for something.
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: Jeff_in_PDX
Jun 4th, 2012
5:04 pm
I hope it works, BB! I have one spear left in the garage, so if you have good luck, I'm going to "borrow" your idea...
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: brewboy_BB
Jun 4th, 2012
5:05 pm
I'll post my results in this thread.
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: EricHa
Jun 4th, 2012
6:04 pm
thats cool, I saved mine too thinking I may be able to use these for something later on... btw, stretching and pulling mine always has a positive effect!
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: Dunkelbier
Jun 4th, 2012
6:15 pm
BB - I wouldn't want ANYTHING named John Holmes near my brewing set up. Just sayin..
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: brewboy_BB
Jun 4th, 2012
6:23 pm
You're just jealous.
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: EricHa
Jun 4th, 2012
6:27 pm
I'm naming my new filter "Ron Jeremy"! I plan on putting a nice fuzzy insulator around my tun!
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: CharlieHorse
Jun 4th, 2012
6:33 pm
Eric, would that mean that you're going to use the new self-sparging technique?
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: EricHa
Jun 4th, 2012
9:23 pm
actually I'll call that the 'sparge un trois' One to keep the 'braid' 'stiff', another to 'heat' the sparge 'water' and then I spray the 'grains'
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: Dunkelbier
Jun 5th, 2012
12:55 am
BB - LMAO. Nope, definitely not jealous. As I recall, dude died of AIDS. (He was married and had a couple kids too.) Next thing Carboys will be named Jenna Jamison and racking canes, 'deep throat'.
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: Ohiobrewman
Jun 5th, 2012
2:37 am
Yeah but he had a 16 Inch Member...lol
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: brewboy_BB
Jun 5th, 2012
2:48 am
Guess I need to build a bigger filter.
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: Ohiobrewman
Jun 5th, 2012
3:25 am
Most likely ,BB lol
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: brewboy_BB
Jun 6th, 2012
5:28 pm
I got to thinking about what Jeff said about his experience with a perforated tube, so I created the sequel. This is John Holmes II, the Erotic Filter. Instead of the Sanke spear, I wound a spring, using 1/16", 316 SS, TIG rod on a 1/2" PVC mandrel. It seems to do a great job of supporting the braid. It's relaxed diameter was a little too large and required that I screw it into the braid. This is why it has a ribbed appearance.

I also used a brass plug at the head of the filter, to add a little weight, in hopes of preventing it from floating. It allows the tip to hang down, but I think in this case a limp filter might be better.

http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee330/brushycreek/P1040521.jpg

http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee330/brushycreek/P1040520.jpg

http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee330/brushycreek/P1040523.jpg
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: CharlieHorse
Jun 6th, 2012
5:41 pm
David, I have to know, are all of those puns intentional?
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: brewboy_BB
Jun 6th, 2012
5:41 pm
Puns???

Are you questioning my detailed descriptions?
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: CharlieHorse
Jun 6th, 2012
5:49 pm
Have a homebrew and reread it slowly.
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: brewboy_BB
Jun 6th, 2012
5:57 pm
Charlie, I think having a homebrew, anytime you read through TastyBrew threads, is a good idea.
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: CharlieHorse
Jun 6th, 2012
6:07 pm
Unfortunately, I read them at work and I can't drink in a government office (even though I'm a contractor). They actually passed a rule a few years ago that we couldn't imbibe at lunch! We were horrorfied!
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: brewboy_BB
Jun 6th, 2012
6:08 pm
I rarely do it either, but I still think it's a good idea.
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: EricHa
Jun 6th, 2012
6:55 pm
RIBBED! ..for the grain's pleasure!
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: Jonathan
Jun 6th, 2012
7:36 pm
Eric, shouldn't that be followed by "ewwwwwwww" (spoken like Garth Algar)
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: brewboy_BB
Jun 7th, 2012
2:49 am
One thing I discovered is that a high speed cutoff tool like this:

http://www.harborfreight.com/3-inch-high-speed-air-cutter-67425.html?utm_medium=cse&utm_source=googlebase&hft_adv=40010&mr:trackingCode=1B700F9E-782A-E011-B31E-001B2163195C&mr:referralID=NA

Is perfect for cutting the braid. It will smoke a little from cutting the internal hose. The only thing you have to do is take a screwdriver and go between the braid and the hose right at the cut, because it slightly melts the tube to the braid. This is a minimal inconvenience for how well it works.
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: redbrew
Jun 7th, 2012
3:23 am
"John Holmes Mash Filter." You know who to blame if your fermenters suddenly get infected.
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: brewboy_BB
Jun 7th, 2012
3:25 am
Denny?
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: Dunkelbier
Jun 8th, 2012
12:52 am
Red - ROTFLMAO....that was good.
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: redbrew
Jun 8th, 2012
1:35 am
Hey BB. If it starts to drip just give it a shot of trobicin. That should take care of it.
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: brewboy_BB
Jun 8th, 2012
3:15 am
Sounds like the voice of experience.
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: redbrew
Jun 8th, 2012
3:42 am
It depends on what your definition of the word "experience" is. And no..........I did not have sexual relations with that mashtun.
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: brewboy_BB
Jun 8th, 2012
11:19 am
You probably didn't inhale either.
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: brewboy_BB
Jul 10th, 2012
12:47 pm
Finally got to play with my John Holmes and it works great. I'm running wort through it that is a combination of 50% wheat and rye and while it runs a little slower at the end, there wasn't any wiggling, shaking or sucking required to keep it going. I think this is a winner.
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: CharlieHorse
Jul 10th, 2012
1:01 pm
Dave, without reading the title of this thread, your last post makes you sound liek one of those North East Liberals.
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: brewboy_BB
Jul 10th, 2012
1:02 pm
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: EricHa
Jul 10th, 2012
3:09 pm
bow chicha bow wow!
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: brewboy_BB
Jul 10th, 2012
10:35 pm
You guys keep playing with your short, small girth tubes, but I'm sold on the John Holmes model.
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: EricHa
Jul 10th, 2012
10:37 pm
my tube girth may be short and small but... I got a pyle driving mashtun!
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: jtrainer
Jul 10th, 2012
11:45 pm
Is your hop sack made of lambskin or latex?

Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: brewboy_BB
Jul 10th, 2012
11:48 pm
A patchwork of foreskins and I don't know if you've purchased any of those lately, but they've become very expensive.
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: EricHa
Jul 11th, 2012
2:50 pm
baaaaaaaaaad to use latex!
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: jtrainer
Jul 12th, 2012
5:25 am
When BB is afraid of over hop utilization he pulls them out....
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: brewboy_BB
Jul 12th, 2012
11:22 am


The only problem I have with it, and it's not a big problem, is that it leaves just a little wort behind. That's because at the end of the filter, back by the drain, I had to use large fittings to clamp the SS on to. That coupled with the barbed fitting and a short section of vinyl tubing, leaves a couple of inches without any drain holes.

What I would like to do, if I can figure out how, is to plug both ends of the John Holmes and add a "T" tap in the middle of it, so it lays parallel to the drain end of the cooler. That really makes sense with all filters, because with a slightly tilted tun, the wort all lays at that end anyway over time.
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: EricHa
Jul 12th, 2012
2:51 pm
I feel like I need a cigarette after that...
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: brewboy_BB
Jul 12th, 2012
2:56 pm
And maybe dinner and a movie after that???
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: EricHa
Jul 12th, 2012
4:17 pm
bout time you asked me out!
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: EricHa
Jul 12th, 2012
4:18 pm
and if that sounds vaguely gay, I'd like to know why. ... why its so vague.
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: jtrainer
Jul 12th, 2012
11:35 pm
Replace the barb connector with a Tee, then off the tee use more mesh to connect to a large barb or other fitting at the spigot.

Boy u guys and your mesh pieces go through a lot of design testing. That's why I love my false bottoms and paint strainer, very little makes it to the boiler or fermenter.

Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: brewboy_BB
Jul 13th, 2012
12:00 am
What can I say? I just like playing with it.
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: redbrew
Jul 13th, 2012
4:47 pm
Whats next on your agenda? The Linda Lovelace Lautertun?
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: brewboy_BB
Jul 13th, 2012
4:51 pm
I do need to make a hew grain mill hopper. I like the name Deep Throat for that.
Subject: Re: The John Holmes Mash Filter
Author: redbrew
Jul 13th, 2012
4:57 pm
Who's that girl that Bryan loves? You could make the Audrey Hollander Hop Taco. Think about the possibilities...............of infections!

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